Well Lofty, I made it thru the op! You would have won the bet!! Just remembering one of your many talents... the dreaded 'nickname!' You struck fear into many a heart when you chose a nickname for us!! So from all of us inc: Armpit steamer,Roadsweeper,Teletubby,Tree stump and The fat controller!! Never knew who that was?!?!? Bless your heart Loft. xXx